Friday, March 13, 2009

Liberal Hypocrisy?

Maybe I'm a mind numbed robot or have my head too far up the conservative behind but I hope someone can explain something too me. The current administration and their groupies continue to tell us that we can't be all we can be without the government. Government controlling our health, our finances, our schooling and our retirement. We are told we should give up our individual rights for the good of the collective. Then how does it make sense that these are the same people who tell us a woman has the right to her body and all that goes on with it? They say we should not interfere with a woman's right to choose (abort).

So as I see it: The government will tell us what to eat, what doctor to see, how much we can earn, what car we can drive and where we can pray but it's hands off to tell a woman she can't abort. Someone show me the light.

10 comments:

  1. All over this blog you’re posting how you don’t want government telling you want to do, and bla-bla-bla. But you’re okay with it when it doesn't match up with your religious beliefs.
    Isn’t that Hypocrisy? Please spin that one for me.


    -Just me-
    I believe in a high power, but I don’t want my government making chooses over it. (It’s a personal thing, not a public thing to me) What happens in 150 year and Islam is taking over as major religious factor in the USA. Do we really want government making chooses based Islamic law? I know that this government was based on Judah Christian law. Yet, if we want to save our country we must make sure that doing some thing now just because it’s the religious beliefs of the majority in power, doesn’t let future majorities change our way of living. All religious beliefs must be removed from thing government. If you want Religion than go to a private church, private school, or private bible reading class.

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  2. Tell me where I wanted government to get involved in religion?

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  3. Like it or not, our country was founded on Religious Principles. People came to this country not because they had seen a cool brochure, it was religious freedom.

    The government, acting on behalf of the people, declares certain actions to be just and unjust. This is a moral distinction between right and wrong. Whenever government debates whether or not certain actions and institutions are lawful, it takes moral considerations into account. Put another way, by formulating and upholding laws, government encourages and expresses a society's fundamental moral principles.

    Today, as with the founding of this country, those principles are from a Judah/Christian God. If we were a Muslim country, our laws would be different based on their moral beliefs.

    I don't want Government telling me who and what to worship, but we have to have a core set of values to base our laws.

    You say, " I know our country was founded based on Judah/Christian law, (now here it comes)YET, it we want to save our country we need to change. So, despite what has worked to make us the greatest country in history, lets not do that anymore. We need to change. NO, we need to get back to the values that made us great and continue down that path. It is exactly those values that made us what we are, and the moving away from those values that is killing us.

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  4. You don’t want the government will tell us what to eat, what doctor to see, how much we can earn, what car we can drive. But you want the government to tell you who to marriage, when to die, and to keep or not keep a baby.
    So you’re only okay with government telling you what to do only if it is that same as your religious beliefs. That is what I was saying is “Hypocrisy”

    Not sure if that is clear?… I’m not English major. Which I’m sure is obvious. =)

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  5. Pooky, you're throwing around a lot of different ideas that could have their own posts. You may have to help me out on a couple. I don't know where I said anything about dieing.

    Lets take religion out of the abortion issue. I think we all agree its not right to take an innocent human life. So we are left with is a fetus a human life? Well it is human, DNA can prove that and it's alive. So if we agree it's not right to take an innocent human life than a fetus would qualify no matter what your religious belief.

    I assume your other point was about gay marriage. If you want to stay in the secular realm we would have to look at what a gay lifestyle has done to other cultures and civilizations. The best example of this would be the Roman empire. The US is often compared to it. The empire was powerful but it's decline started when morals and order were not followed. A gay lifestyle was prevalant. The birth rate declined and chaos ensued. My question to you about gay marriage is where do you stop? If 2 guys or girls can marry how about a brother and sister or a father and son or a man and a horse. At some point you have to have a law limiting excess's.

    So I think I can take religion out of your examples and still come to the same conclusions.

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  6. "So I think I can take religion out of your examples and still come to the same conclusions."

    - I disagree. You can’t separate the two because that is the perception of the people. And even if it’s not true, perception is 90% of everything. For me Life doesn’t being until after you have a heart beat. (that’s just me) But man was giving free will to do what we want. If it’s wrong, then in the end it will be taken care of.

    - I would even say abortion is a good thing. Let be 100% honest, abortion rates for non-causation babies are extremely low, and I’m not talking about Asian babies if you know what I mean. A good book to read is “freakonomics”, it about $7 on Amazon. I would send you my copy, but my father in law has it.

    “ question to you about gay marriage is where do you stop? If 2 guys or girls can marry how about a brother and sister or a father and son or a man and a horse. At some point you have to have a law limiting excess's”

    - For me I don’t care… Let anyone do what they want. (As long as it not physical hurting someone) Who an I to impose my belief on anyone. Comes back to my philosophy of “Free will” and that in the end the big judge will take care of it.

    “If 2 guys or girls can marry how about a brother and sister or a father”

    - Have you ever talk to anyone from Tennessee or Alabama??

    Okay so take religious out of it. If your want government to say out of our lives, then that should include all things! You can’t pick and choose. This is my problem with true “hard core” Conservative. They pick and choose.

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  7. Pook if you're going to argue a point you need to have a consistent one. Your arguements have shown you have nothing to believe in. Without convictions you float in the wind to whatever idea seems good at the moment.

    You say "This is my problem with true “hard core” Conservative". They pick and choose. You have done the same as does everyone. You want me to pay for your sisters medical bills. You want the rich to be taxed more. Isn't that picking and choosing your laws? Don't try to be all high and mighty and act like you are above us all because you think we all should be able to do what we want.

    So according to your logic we can marry who or what we want, worship who or how we want and shouldn't have control over our income or possesions. In that case I can marry anyone I want(even if she's married) sacrifice a child because my religion believes in human sacrifices and come into your house and take whatever I want since there can't be any laws to prevent it. Our kids can do drugs and drink all they want and your next door neighbor would run a whore house.

    As absurd as that sounds that is what we have with no laws. So there has to be some. They have to be based on something or they change every time someone new gets in office. If you belive in God you base the laws on His. If you don't what are the laws based on?

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  8. “"Without convictions you float in the wind to whatever idea seems good at the moment."”
    - That’s true. That is the best way to be!! I’m not someone in with an Ideological point of view. If facts are shown to me, I have no problem changing my mind. I not a person to just pick a side and stay with it no matter what.
    - Who said convictions are a good thing, Hitler had convictions. (that was just for fun)

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